Critics Already Talking Trump Impeachment After Flynn
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Critics Already Talking Trump Impeachment After Flynn

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Former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn answers questions in the briefing room of the White House February 1, 2017 in Washington, DC. (Getty)

Questions are growing following the resignation of Donald Trump’s national security adviser Michael Flynn over his communications with the Russian ambassador.

With Flynn now gone, some are asking: What did President Donald Trump know – and when? Flynn appears to have fallen on his sword (at least for now), writing in his resignation letter that he was apologizing to Trump and Vice President Mike Pence. However, the “I” word is the topic of heated debate on on Twitter (impeachment):

The issue is getting more tangled, rather than going away: The New York Times (and CNN) are now reporting that “Phone records and intercepted calls show that members of Donald J. Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign and other Trump associates had repeated contacts with senior Russian intelligence officials in the year before the election.” The aides were not yet named, and the content of the conversations was not detailed. Furthermore, the Times wrote that no evidence of collusion was found. There are also reports that Flynn was interviewed by the FBI and that Trump knew for more than half a month about the Flynn conversations. Trump has tried to turn attention toward the leaks to the news media.

There are questions about whether Flynn violated the law – specifically the Logan Act – in his communications with Ambassador Sergey Kislyak before Donald Trump took the oath of office and the day before President Barack Obama imposed sanctions on Russia.

The New York Times and Washington Post reported that Flynn discussed sanctions with Kislyak, counteracting denials from both Flynn and VP Mike Pence, who has said he got his information from Flynn.

With Republicans in control of Congress, impeachment seems very unlikely. However, the resignation of Flynn raises serious questions, and at least one top Republican has raised them.

Here’s what you need to know:


It Would Take A Lot of Republicans to Impeach Trump – a Very Unlikely Scenario

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President Donald Trump delivers remarks at the beginning of a meeting with his staff and government cyber security experts in the Roosevelt Room at the White House January 31, 2017 in Washington, DC. Citing the hack of computers at the Democratic National Committee by Russia, Trump said that the private and public sectors must do more to prevent and protect against cyber attacks. (Getty)

Remember that Republicans control Congress. This is key.

According to the Huffington Post, “Even if every Democrat in the House voted in unison to impeach Trump, impeachment would only be possible if at least two-dozen Republican members of the House voted in favor. Likewise, a vote in the Senate (requiring two-thirds) to remove Trump from the presidency would only be successful if at least 19 Republican senators voted for conviction.”

Granted, Republicans in Congress might favor Vice President Mike Pence to the volatile Trump, but this would be no short order, it would split the party from a large piece of its base, and there’d have to be something overwhelming and so far unrevealed to get the GOP there.


A Ranking Member of the Intelligence Committee Is Raising Questions About Trump

Intelligence Committee Ranking Member Adam Schiff (D-CA) zeroed in on the question that could theoretically attach the Flynn scandal to Trump: “Whether he (Flynn) was acting on the instructions of the President or any other officials, or with their knowledge.”

That’s a question that’s not been answered yet, at least publicly. However, it’s the crux of the impeachment arguments.

Other Democrats have been asking similar questions. There are efforts to have Flynn testify under oath in front of Congress, which would be a moment of incredible drama.

The question, of course, is whether Republicans start raising public concerns as well, what Flynn says (especially under oath, if compelled), whether he faces legal jeopardy putting pressure on him, and what the intelligence agencies know or have. Those are a lot of ifs, of course, but it’s, minimally, a major distraction for the new president as Flynn was one of his most fervent allies during the campaign. The president isn’t known to break loyalties lightly.

However, even before Flynn’s resignation, U.S. Rep. Jim Sensenbrenner (R-WI) said in a town hall, as paraphrased by a reporter there: “If he (Flynn) ended up lying up food chain to POTUS, then something would have to be done.”

There is a petition asking Republican Jason Chaffetz, chairman of the House Oversight Committee, to open an investigation into the Flynn/Russia question. On February 13, according to a news release, “All Democratic Members of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform sent a letter to Chairman Jason Chaffetz urging him to reconsider his repeated refusals over the past several months to join Ranking Member Elijah E. Cummings in investigating Lt. General Michael Flynn and his ties to Russia.”

The Huffington Post reported February 10 – before Flynn resigned: “Congressman Jerrold Nadler (D-NY) filed a ‘resolution of inquiry’ that amounts to the first legislative step toward impeachment.” The Huffington Post noted that some Republicans voted to impeach Richard Nixon.

Bookmakers are already taking bets over whether Trump will be impeached, and some have the odds at 4-1.

Others are digging up old tweets by Trump.

However, as Politico notes: “Any actual movement on impeachment wouldn’t come until Americans have turned on Trump en masse.” Although Trump is unpopular in various polls (he notes that polls wrongly predicted his loss, of course), he retains the support of his core base.


News Reports Indicated the Government Has a Transcript of the Conversation

Sergey Kislyak. (Russian embassy)

Sergey Kislyak. (Russian embassy)

What exactly did Flynn say to the Russian ambassador? At this point, that’s publicly not clear. All that’s known is what prominent news sites – like The New York Times and Washington Post – have reported Flynn said based on anonymous sources. They reported that Flynn, contrary to past denials, spoke to the Russian ambassador about sanctions. But the specific semantics matter. News organizations have also reported that Flynn did not make any specific promises to the Russians.

This was the Wall Street Journal account (a newspaper often perceived as more favorable to conservatives than the others):

The Times and others have indicated that the government was eavesdropping on the Russian ambassador’s conversations and may have a transcript of the Flynn conversations.

The questions, of course, are multi-fold: If the government has a transcript of the conversation, why did it take this long for Flynn to resign? When did Trump see the transcript, if in fact it exists? When did Pence? Was it the exposure in the media that changed things? Why did it take that? Who leaked the information to the news media? Was it intelligence agencies?


The President’s Adviser Said Earlier in the Day That Trump Had Confidence in Flynn

One mystery regarding Flynn’s resignation is the fact that the president’s high profile and controversial adviser, Kellyanne Conway, said earlier in the day on February 13 that Trump had confidence in Flynn. Then, several hours later, Flynn was gone.

“Does he have the full confidence of the president? Yes, he does,” Conway said. But she added a hedge – that Flynn said he could “not recall” the details of some conversations. She also said that Vice President Mike Pence had characterized the conversations solely based on what Flynn had told him.


Some Think Flynn Might Have Violated the Logan Act & If He Lied to the FBI, That Could Be a Felony

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Retired Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn gestures as he arrives at Trump Tower, November 17, 2016 in New York City. News reports said that Trump had offered Flynn the position of national security adviser. Flynn is an outspoken critic of radical Islam. (Getty)

The reports by The Washington Post and New York Times raise questions about whether Flynn violated the law known as the Logan Act. The New York Times also reported that some investigators did not believe Flynn was “entirely forthcoming” with them; making a false statement to federal investigators is a crime (there’s no evidence publicly at this point that Flynn did so).

It’s a law that no one has ever been found guilty of violating, despite being on the books since 1798, according to The Washington Post, which added, “It seems its main purpose these past 200 years has been as a political weapon for the opposition party to cast doubt on the other party’s foreign policies.”

The Logan Act reads as follows, according to Cornell University:

Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

The New York Times reported that some officials believe Flynn’s conversation with the ambassador was potentially a Logan Act violation. After all, Barack Obama was still president and about to impose sanctions against Russia, an action which, when it occurred, did not spark Russian anger to the degree some expected, at least not publicly. However, the Times reported that it would be very unusual for the law to be prosecuted because it is “murky” during presidential transition periods.

The history of the Logan Act dates back to the founding days of the country. “During the presidency of John Adams, Dr. George Logan, a private citizen, engaged in freelance diplomacy with the government of revolutionary France. The Federalists, then in control of the federal government, were not pleased by what they perceived as Dr. Logan’s interference with the foreign policy of the United States,” according to an article published by Oxford University Press’ blog.

According to Reuters, the Logan Act “is aimed at preventing the undermining of official U.S. government positions.” Some Democrats also accused Donald Trump of violating it at different points during the campaign, and some have argued it’s antiquated and doesn’t work in modern communication times.

If it were ever established that Trump knew about or directed the conversations Flynn had with the Russian ambassador, then some might question whether Trump himself violated the Logan Act.


The Justice Department Warned Trump About Flynn

Sally Yates testifies before the Senate Judiciary Committee on July 8th, 2015. (Getty)

Sally Yates testifies before the Senate Judiciary Committee on July 8th, 2015. (Getty)

According to Reuters, Sally Yates, then-acting U.S. attorney general, “told the White House late last month that she believed Flynn had misled them about the nature of his communications with the Russian ambassador to the United States.”

She felt Flynn might be open to blackmail, Reuters reported. Trump later fired Yates for refusing to defend his immigration ban. However, Flynn remained in his post until the media exposure.


Pence Was Allegedly Misled by Flynn & Flynn Has Apologized to Trump & Pence

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US Vice President Mike Pence (C) arrives on Capitol Hill in Washington, DC, February 7, 2017.(Getty)

If the vice president was misled by Flynn, then was the president? Mike Pence told the news media that Flynn did not talk about sanctions to the Russians. In his resignation letter, Flynn said:

Unfortunately, because of the fast pace of events, I inadvertently briefed the Vice President Elect and others with incomplete information regarding my phone calls with the Russian Ambassador. I have sincerely apologized to the President and the Vice President, and they have accepted my apology.

Palmer Report notes the omission of “Trump” in the line about the Vice President Elect and “others”: “Nowhere in the above passage did Michael Flynn say that he misinformed or misled Donald Trump with regard to his phone calls to the Russian Ambassador.”

Reuters reported: “Flynn had promised Pence he had not discussed U.S. sanctions with the Russians, but transcripts of intercepted communications, described by U.S. officials, showed that the subject had come up in conversations between him and the Russian ambassador to the United States.”

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Anonymous

There were “10 LITTLE INDIANS” AND NOW…… THERE IS 9″!!!…..THEN THERE WILL BE ONE!!!…..UNTIL THERE IS NONE!!!!….. Who will be next in line to fall? The list is getting shorter. It’s just a matter of time!!!

Anonymous

Ten Little Indians, now there is 9, then there will be one, until there is none ?

No ! No ! No !

There’s always going to be one little Indiana ! And ;
that is Elizabeth Warren !
From the high cheekbone tribe.

Well !
At least we can say ,Michael Flynn did not Aid the enemy ,like the infidel Obama !!

Democrats are getting weaker and weaker. In another six months the Republicans will take more seats !

Keep it up you violent heathens !

Your end is near !!!

Liz

Anonymous. First of all why not stand by your thoughts and say who you are? Second of all what does “high cheek bone” tribe mean? Is that a pejorative term? How did Obama aid the enemy? What enemy, specifically? What proof do you have? Perhaps you could supply me with some informations so I can be enlightened. Is the United States at war with itself? What is your vision of what our country will look like after Republicans have total control? What will make it better when that happens?

Anonymous

To answer your questions is fruitless !

Liz, because ! by your writing, it is clear that you are from the left ; and do not know how to be right !

Any explanation of logic, to explain !
To the left ,or should we say the Muslim Brotherhood !
Would be lost in the translation of the truth. Because !

You do not know what the truth is only that violence May intimidate some.

The Democrats/ Muslim Brotherhood remind me of an old saying ; You fool me once shame on you !
You fool me twice shame on me !

The Democrats with the constant bombardment of Lies .
Have lost reality in what the truth really is ! and ; that is !
Donald J Trump is the president of the United States !

Not Hillary rotten Clinton !

You see the Muslim Brotherhood must understand you are not in control any longer !

So keep up your hatred !
To american-born citizens !

Keep claiming that !
Immigrants have more rights than american-born citizen.

We know the Muslim Brotherhood has infiltrated the colleges around the United States !

Like I said !
If I told you the truth you wouldn’t understand it, because your father is the king of Lies.

Anonymous

right on, I was just thinkging to myself; “self, the only thing missing from this comment is more exclamation points”.

Anonymous

Really!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous

Hey Anonymous with the big mouth – you ever serve? If so where when and branch -i’m a retired seal with multiple tours behind me – currently a dod contractor – I would like to help you help yourself – you’re very confused and disoriented and spit out useless gramarless chatter – get a grip brother (or sister) try to tear yourself away from your best friend your computer- I will help you get a life – pls respond – I’ll provide you my contact info –

Anonymous

I knew , I would get a Muslim infidel to respond to my truth
I doubt very seriously if you are a seal a Navy SEAL would not shoot his mouth off like you ! Navy SEAL would not be so stupid to threaten someone over the Internet . Ass hole !

Dorian

Yep..Just like Palin. We can now see Russia from the WH.. Flynn, Page, Manafort.. Who is next? President Trump will resign or get impeached.. Amen!!!

Anonymous

Build That Wall !

Keep the pigs out of this country !

Send them to Canada they want them up there !

Why doesn’t Mexico open their doors for these Muslim infidels !

Oh I know why ! because the Mexicans will slice through throat and throw across the border.

Henry

Totally agree with you Dorian….can’t wait for that day…then we need term limits on congress

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