Dr. Deborah Nucatola: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know

In an undercover video from the anti-abortion group Center for Medical Progress, a senior Planned Parenthood doctor drinks wine and describes the harvesting of fetus organs and the cost to provide them. The doctor is identified as Dr. Deborah Nucatola, senior director of medical services at Planned Parenthood Federation of America. The video’s makers claim it proves Planned Parenthood is illegally selling fetal tissue and performing illegal partial-birth abortions. Planned Parenthood refutes the claims, explaining that the dollar figures discussed refer to costs associated with delivering donated tissue. You can watch the full video above.

Here’s what you need to know about the video and Nucatola:

1. Nucatola Says ‘We’ve Been Very Good at Getting Heart, Lung, Liver’ & the Cost of Providing Specimens Is $30 to $100

Dr. Deborah Nucatola

(Center for Medical Progress)

According to the Center for Medical Progress, which produced the video, it was recorded secretly during a lunch meeting between Nucatola and actors, who were posing as buyers from a medical company. The clip was made in June 2014. Below is the heavily edited version:

During the meeting, Nucatola discusses the cost to provide specimens — between $30 and $100 for body parts such as lungs and kidneys, with liver being the most sought-after organ. According to the Center for Medical Progress, anybody found guilty of the sale of fetal tissue is liable for a $500,000 fine and/or 10 years in prison. The group claims the video proves Planned Parenthood is illegally selling organs, but Planned Parenthood says Nucatola is not talking about sale prices but rather the costs associated with delivering donated tissue.

In the video, Nucatola discusses the legal sensitivity surrounding Planned Parenthood’s role in providing specimens, saying the organization distances itself from the issue but she knows it’s happening at affiliate clinics: “At the national office, we have a Litigation and Law Department, which just really doesn’t want us to be the middle people for this issue right now. But I will tell you that behind closed doors these conversations are happening with the affiliates.”

Finally, Nucatola talks about abortion doctors’ prowess in harvesting organs intact: “We’ve been very good at getting heart, lung, liver, because we know that, so I’m not gonna crush that part, I’m gonna basically crush below, I’m gonna crush above, and I’m gonna see if I can get it all intact.”

Nucatola describes in graphic detail the techniques designed to preserve certain body parts, including what the video’s makers claim is a description of so-called partial-birth abortion, which is illegal according to the Supreme Court.

Read a transcript of the video below:

2. Her Boss, Nancy Pelosi’s Former Deputy Chief of Staff, Calls Nucatola ‘Amazing’

Cecile Richards, the president of Planned Parenthood, calls Nucatola 'Amazing' in the video. (Getty)

Cecile Richards, the president of Planned Parenthood, calls Nucatola “amazing.” (Getty)

Cecile Richards, the president and CEO of Planned Parenthood, appears at the end of the video in a clip recorded separately and commends the work of Nucatola, calling her “great” and “amazing.” It’s made clear that at the time of her comments, Richards didn’t know about the video.

Planned Parenthood has issued a statement in response to the video:

In health care, patients sometimes want to donate tissue to scientific research that can help lead to medical breakthroughs, such as treatments and cures for serious diseases. Women at Planned Parenthood who have abortions are no different. At several of our health centers, we help patients who want to donate tissue for scientific research, and we do this just like every other high-quality health care provider does — with full, appropriate consent from patients and under the highest ethical and legal standards. There is no financial benefit for tissue donation for either the patient or for Planned Parenthood. In some instances, actual costs, such as the cost to transport tissue to leading research centers, are reimbursed, which is standard across the medical field.

A well funded group established for the purpose of damaging Planned Parenthood’s mission and services has promoted a heavily edited, secretly recorded videotape that falsely portrays Planned Parenthood’s participation in tissue donation programs that support lifesaving scientific research. Similar false accusations have been put forth by opponents of abortion services for decades. These groups have been widely discredited and their claims fall apart on closer examination, just as they do in this case.

Richards is the daughter of former Texas Governor Ann Richards and was a former deputy chief of staff to Nancy Pelosi, the Democratic Leader in the House of Representatives.

3. Nucatola Has Been With Planned Parenthood for 10 Years

Deborah Nucatola Twitter

Nucatola, pictured on her now-deleted Twitter page.

According to her LinkedIn page, Nucatola has worked for Planned Parenthood since February 2005, ascending to the role of senior director in 2009. She got her BA from the University of Wisconsin-Madison and her medical degree from the State University of New York Downstate Medical Center College of Medicine. The little information that could be gathered from a cached version of her deleted Twitter page indicates that she’s a big football fan.

4. Nucatola Says ‘No One Ever Plans to Have an Abortion’

Dr. Deborah Nucatola

In an interview about her day-to-day role as an abortion doctor, Nucatola told Think Catalog in 2014:

One thing I’ve learned is that no one ever plans to have an abortion.

Or to ever be in a situation where they might want or need to consider having an abortion. I think that’s one reason why we’ve seen so many laws restricting abortion in the last few years: People don’t put themselves in that hypothetical situation and wonder what they would do if they were faced with an unintended pregnancy.

She also answered the question about why she became an abortion doctor, answering:

Patients will often ask me why I became an abortion provider, and I explain that I didn’t plan my path in life to become an abortion provider. Rather, I became an obstetrician gynecologist because I wanted to take care of women — through all the phases of their reproductive life, whether or not they ever decided to have children.

Nucatola also dismisses the idea of having any qualms about providing abortions, saying, “I think providing abortion to a woman who requests it is the moral and ethical thing to do.”

5. ‘Partial-Birth Abortion’ Is Not a Medically Recognized Term



The phrase partial-birth abortion, or partial-term abortion, though used frequently by pro-life groups, is not a medical term according to the American Medical Association or the American Congress of Obstetricians and Gynecologists. Anybody caught administering partial-birth abortions is subject to two years in prison. The Center for Medical Progress has said this is just the first in a series of investigations into the “illegal trafficking of aborted fetal parts.”

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  1. Your skewed and sloppy reporting is quite impressive in its laziness. You take this heavily political video at face value, not asking yourself once whether it might have been edited to skew the results – as videos frequently are – or how much credence to give to Live Action, who are an extremist group well-known for using deliberately misleading and selectively edited video. The Center for Medical Progress is not, despite its name, a medical professional group, but another anti-abortion group. Pathetic.

    • If you actually believe pp isn’t selling body parts you are blind. I knew your kind of spin would come up fast.

      • How could Planned Parenthood sell body parts when they ONLY perform FIRST trimester abortions in the first 12 months and the fetus is only less than an inch long with no body parts to sell and considering most of the abortions are pill abortions in the first 9 weeks where a woman gets a prescription for pills, goes home and takes them and her period begins and the 1/2 inch clot of tissues washes out in the commode?

        • First of all, the gestation period for a baby is 40 weeks or 10 months not 12 months which would not be a first trimester, also Dr. Nucatola mentions a “17 weeker”.that she just aborted, so get your facts straight.

    • During an early abortion, the fetus is ripped limb from limb–that’s how it dies. During a later abortion, a needle is inserted into a woman’s abdomen, and the baby is killed by lethal injection. Nothing can change that. You can write and justify yourself for the rest of your life, but it doesn’t change the truth. I guess you think the little thing doesn’t have any feelings.

  2. Why should she give a rip about selling the organs? The fetus is not a person, it’s not worthy of dignity or respect. Everything is about women’s health. . .or that is what we are supposed to think. The bottom line is that she arranged kick-backs to the clinic in exchange for “donating” collected fetal tissue. I hope retires as the career all-time leader in abortion percentage. Own it Doc, you got caught.

    • This is for ME shame on you for your stupidity ppl like you are the reason our country is the way it is. In my opinion you are not worthy to be spit on let alone be respected.But I can gaurntee you this if you and your way of thinking don’t change you will suffer for eternity in a roasting pit and I’m sure every stupid heart-less thing you have said and done will play back to you over and over again for ever and ever.

    • There is denying. Planned Parenthood only does first trimester abortions in the first 12 weeks of pregnancy when the fetus is less than an inch long and there are NO parts to sell. Many are in the first 9 weeks when it is a pill abortion, Women get a prescription, go home and take the pills, and their period begins, flushing out the 1/2 inch clot of tissue that looks like a tiny blood clot. There is nothing to sell.

  3. It is a fake video. Planned Parenthood is a non-profit organization that only does abortions in the first trimester- first 12 weeks- when the fetus is less than an inch long and there are no parts to sell. This has always been what they do. Many are pill abortions in the first 9 weeks when a woman takes pills and her period begins at home and the 1/2 inch clot of tissue comes out in the flow. Again, there are no parts to sell and the woman isn’t even at Planned Parenthood when it comes out. You really need to research stories. The group involved are KNOWN for clipping together videos and editing them to appear to be something different.

    • how do you know what they do or do not, do you have a horse in that race, yourself? awful stuff, stupid ass Doctor she is, she deserves everything she has coming at her for her stupidity alone.

    • planned parenthood?! Interesting concept, where are the kids to be parented? ooh, wait they are parted out in jars! do they do a sale on black Friday?

    • A 9 week fetus is NOT “a 1/2 inch clot of tissue”. I was unfortunate to suffer a miscarriage in the first trimester. The fetus I misaccries was 7 weeks gestation and there was a head a body and tiny arms and legs. There would be significant more development by 9 weeks.

      • Liar. We miscarried at the same time. I wouldn’t say it was a half inch clot, but there were 100% no limbs and no head. You fucking hick liar

  4. terrilynnmerritts is correct, and shame on you, Heavy, for not fact checking. This ‘film’ is propaganda, pure and simple. To the creatine attacking Terrilyn about her facts, LOOK IT UP yourself, lean biology! At 12 weeks, there are minute ‘parts’. If you want MORE information about aborted fetal tissue, ask Mitt Romney, whose company ‘Stericycle’ disposes of fetal tissue. If you don’t believe in abortion, don’t have one, and support sex ed in schools. Support birth control. It’s legal, not mandatory.

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  6. According to Dr Dutton, a psychopath expert in the UK, psychopaths are found in great numbers in the surgical profession. Obstetrics-gynecology is a branch of surgery. Therefore, it’s not surprising that Nucatol might be a psychopath. There’s a high probability she is–at the very least she’s a subclinical psychopath. Click here for more information on psychopathy–>

  7. Debra Nucatela will have her own wing in Hell- I wonder if she hears screams of babies in her sleep- whoever raised her should hang their heads if shame forever and beg God to forgive them.