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Carnell ‘CJ’ Snell Jr.: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know

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Carnell “CJ” Snell. (Facebook/Tiffany Hobbs)

A teenager shot and killed by Los Angeles police was identified by his family as Carnell “CJ” Snell Jr., according to ABC 7.

Police said they recovered a gun at the scene and that Snell was armed when he was shot during a foot chase, but family members and a former teacher contended Snell was shot in the back, perhaps as many as five times, and that he had his hands up. These details, which spread quickly on Twitter the night of October 1, sparking outrage, were unconfirmed. Police released a video on October 4 showing Snell with a gun. You can watch it in the second section of this story. Here’s a screen shot:

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A screenshot from the police YouTube video. (LAPD)

The Los Angeles Times and other news outlets reported that Snell was 18.

The shooting death of Snell comes as tensions remain high in California over police-related shootings. His death provoked protests in the streets as upset citizens stood face-to-face with police in riot gear. The unrest continued on Sunday night, when there were also reports of another officer-involved shooting near where Snell died.

Police said the unidentified person who was shot Sunday has died and a replica gun was recovered. Early reports on ABC 7 said gang officers had received a call of an armed man, and there was no indication the shooting had any relation to the protests or Snell’s death.

Crowds were stopping traffic:

People lamented that Snell, only a teenager, was now a hashtag on Twitter.

Here’s what you need to know:


1. Carnell’s Former Teacher Said He Was ‘Trying’ & Made Her Day ‘Every Day’

Tiffany Hobbs posted a photo of Snell on Facebook, along with a message that includes the claims that Snell was shot in the back while his hands were up. Her Facebook post seems to be the genesis of many of the claims on Twitter to that regard. This is what she wrote:

Just learned that the police killed one of our former students 3 hours ago. Carnell was trying. Im afraid of my numbness. Im afraid of the rage that stays on the tip of my tongue. Im afraid of Carnell’s life being reduced to a hashtag. His hands were up when he was shot in the back. He will always be more than what the LAPD considers as disposable. He made my day everyday. He made all of our days. He was 18. Rest sweet, Carnell. #CarnellSnell

The claims quickly ricocheted around social media.

The details Hobbs imparted of the shooting are unconfirmed. On her Facebook page, she said the details came from witnesses she didn’t identify.

Another woman wrote a detailed post on Facebook describing meeting Snell a few days before he died.

CBS Los Angeles reported, “Witnesses told CBS Los Angeles the deceased man — believed to be Snell — was running with his hands up, and said he was telling officers he was unarmed, when police shot him about five times.”

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2. Police Said the Shooting of Snell Occurred After a Pursuit of a Stolen Vehicle & A Gun Was Recovered at the Scene

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Carnell Snell. (GoFundMe)

The police chief, Charlie Beck, released video on October 4 showing Snell with a gun. Watch:

According to CBS News, Beck said “officers were justified in their use of deadly force because they feared for their lives.” He was killed soon after the surveillance video, which doesn’t show the shooting, said CBS.

KABC reports that police say that, around 1:40 p.m., they tried to stop a car with paper plates they thought was stolen near Western Avenue and 106th Street. A chase ensued.

“Police said a male passenger exited the vehicle near the area. Officers began chasing the suspect, heading eastbound down 107th Street into the back a home and an officer-involved shooting occurred,” said KABC, adding that police did not detail exactly what led to the shooting of Snell. They have not released details about the position of his hands or where he was shot, either.

The police chief said a loaded gun was recovered at the scene and released this photo:

KTLA said the police chief on October 3 said, “While holding the handgun in his left hand, he (Snell) turned in the direction of pursuing officers…A total of six rounds were fired” by officers.

You can read the full police press release, which was posted on Twitter the morning of October 2, here. It remains vague about the moments right before the shooting, as well as where on his body Snell was shot.

The LAPD had only provided scant details about the shooting on October 1, but the department did disseminate some information via Twitter and at a press conference. Specifically, the LAPD said the shooting unfolded after a stolen vehicle pursuit, and indicated that police had recovered a gun at the scene.

The driver in the pursuit was initially still being sought by police.

The chase occurred around 1 p.m. on October 1, said The New York Daily News.

On social media, accounts were also spreading that said Snell wasn’t in a stolen car. Wrote one woman, “This is a 18-year-old boy, this is somebody’s son, this is somebody’s friend, this is somebody’s brother and you killed him. I don’t care what your story is. I believe the community, I don’t believe the lying police.”

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3. Snell’s Grief-Stricken Mother Begged to See Snell at the Scene

“Please let me see him. Please. Please let me see him,” Snell’s distraught mother said at the scene, grief etched into her face, in a video captured by a Los Angeles Times photographer.

“We’re going to try to get you down there, but that won’t happen for a little bit,” an unidentified man says to the distraught mother.

In another video, the mother claimed she received a phone call that the police shot Snell “five times in the back.” She says he had just left her house.

Carnell’s sister, Trenell Snell, 17, told The Los Angeles Times she was “outside with friends when she saw her older brother, CJ, running from police…she heard gunfire — ‘boom, boom, boom, boom.'” He was shot after being chased toward the back of a house, said The LA Times.

One woman said on Facebook that Snell was shot on the street he lived on. His brother wrote on Facebook, “please no dont let it be my brother i hope my brother okay god…”



4. Angry Crowds Gathered at the Scene

As has occurred in other recent police shootings, crowds gathered at the scene of the shooting, which occurred on Saturday afternoon. The protests have now continued for days as outrage grows over the death of Snell in South L.A.

The protests were getting more unruly late Sunday.

One woman streamed live on YouTube for hours from the scene:

As word spread of Snell’s young age, people indicated on social media that they were headed to the scene to protest.

People on Twitter were upset by photos that they thought showed police in riot gear before any protests started.

The mayor’s house was egged.

Some people expressed exhaustion on social media over the trauma of yet another police shooting death in the news.


5. Three Other California Police Shootings Have Also Provoked Recent Outrage

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Alfred Olango. (Facebook)

There have been days of protests in El Cajon, California over the shooting death of Alfred Olango, 38, who was holding an electronic vape device when he was shot and killed by a police officer.

Police in El Cajon said Olango assumed a shooting-like stance with the device. There have also been protests in Pasadena, over the Friday death of Reginald Thomas in a struggle with police at his home. Up north in Sacramento, there is outrage over the death of Joseph Mann, a mentally ill homeless man who was shot 14 times and killed by police who were captured on audio talking about trying to run him over.

The shooting of Olango in El Cajon has sparked days of unrest in that community, which is a suburb of San Diego. Police and the district attorney there released a citizen cell phone video of Olango’s shooting, which has generated further outcry.

You can watch the Olango video here:

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34 comments

  1. Laws be rayciss an’ sheeit. The Po Po ought not stop any persons of Black persuasion, as they all be aspiring (c)rappers, getting their lives together, ‘Good Boys’, etc.
    It’s obviously a right to drive around at all hours of the night without such embodiments of slavery as license plates, and running away and pulling firearms on the evil oppressors is what Sibbel Rahts is all about.. an’ sheeit

      • well, i beg to differ; this gentleman is obv a poor nigga, doing the best he ‘humanly’ possible can. and with very valid points, i might add. so the only one behaving like an irrational supremacist around here is you…

  2. Laws be rayciss an’ sheeit. The Po Po ought not stop any persons of Black persuasion, as they all be aspiring (c)rappers, getting their lives together, ‘Good Boys’, etc.
    It’s obviously a right to drive around at all hours of the night without such embodiments of slavery as license plates, and running away and pulling firearms on the evil oppressors is what Sibbel Rahts is all about.. an’ sheeit

  3. Yeah, a good boy with a gun found at the scene. But of course, the BLM movement will claim it was planted, because they’re all good boys.
    Kinda like the kids in Chicago who are killing each other, they don’t own guns at all either, nooooo.

      • Got his kid shot? Video shows him display his hands, and evidence shows that the (black) officer had a personal problem with the guy he chased down and shot. i bleleve it involved a woman, but I don’t think there’s been an official statement.

        But you’re going o complain about police violence, but mock cases where it was blatantly used against white people by black officers, not only because it doesn’t fit a ‘police oppression of black people’ narrative, but because you seem to show a sick schadenfreude at white victims of police brutality.

  4. ‘He was trying’ and how the heck does his teacher know ANY circumstances of the shooting? lets be real here people that chick is full of it. Anyways I bet he won’t do THAT again

  5. When will theses dumb idiots get it into their thick skulls to comply with officer instructions and then nobody will get hurt. Instead they try to get cleaver by disobeying an officer instruction, running away, pulling out weapons, attacking police officers, resisting arrest and then get shot in the process.
    If you are stupid enough to look for trouble with the Police you will find it forthcoming. Comply and stay alive, or defy and face the inevitable consequences.
    When your society in general teaches its children to disrespect the Law Enforcement Officers what other result do you expect to get. These are some of the fruits of a lawless society.

      • so that sanctimonious stupid pcdemleftardz like yourself can shame stfu him and ruin his irl life… i don’t think so; and besides, we all know all those facefck accounts are fo sho rly; wigga plz..:roll-eyes: i’m certain he will consider your ‘reasonable’, ‘kind’ and ‘civil’ offering, if you agree to post all of your private info in here beforehand…

  6. How are these facts you should know? Half of them are completely irrelevant, his death created a protest implies it was a bad shooting?! His teacher said he was a good kid implies he was shot in the back?! Sorry those are assumptions propagated by bias opinion not facts, we don’t have those yet…

  7. I get so sick of The Heavy coming out with “Five Fast Facts” articles before there actually are any facts. Snell’s body wasn’t even cold before these guys started drumming up sympathy for the guy.

  8. these are like social medias calls for block parties. “black dude down, lets party.” ya’all get to burn things, beat people up, push over cop cars, throw rocks & the best of all… ransack stores for anything you can grab & run with!!!! come one & all. homemade signs are welcome & learn the words to pigs in a blanket.

    • precisely1 lol11 it’s a excuse to ransack and pillage in a lesser level than those of their pcdemleftard masters111

  9. In the aftermath of another senseless death, by a uniformed officer sworn to protect others when imminent harm or threat or danger to others does not add up to the cause of death; we’re once again hoping that for the sake of his family, friends, and survivors that witnessed his demise, hear in the final analysis, that truth, logic and reasonable actions henceforth will aid in the grieving process for all. A human being’s back riddled with bullets, is not justified due to finding a gun, at the scene of a crime.

  10. Listen bruthas and sistas, if your gonne hold heat, blast. Ambush, plot and enveil the wrath that awaits them. I cant wait.

  11. It was a sad thing that his pant kept falling down when he tried to run from police. It must have been difficult to decide if he should drop the gun , or let his pants drop. Never had a chance to think about just sitting in the car and facing arrest for jacking the car. I just hope he learned his lesson.
    Has anybody found out where the bullets landed? Where there any head shots, or were these all torso rounds? I hope the cops didn’t shoot him in the booty.

  12. It is awful to hear about anyone being gunned down, especially with their backs turned. If someone breaks into your home and you shoot them while their back is turned to you, then it’s no longer self defense. So, it’s no different in this situation. However, that’s not the point I want to make.
    1. Was their car the car that was stolen, yes or no? Paper plates is not an indication of Grand theft.
    2. Did they call in the vehicle that was spotted, yes or no?
    3. Having any interaction with the cops, past or present doesn’t make you guilty of a crime.
    4. While chasing him down, at what point did the officer become fearful?
    5. Because a gun was seen or recovered doesn’t mean that it was point.
    6. When the kid took off running why did he put the gun away, rather than hold it and run? Especially if he was going to turn around and aim at the officer.
    7. Is it possible that he was looking for a place to hid the gun in the little shopping center?
    8. How could he run, point a gun and hold up his pants?
    9. Because law enforcement still haven’t said that the car was stolen, is it possible that it was not and they are attempting to deflect and focus on the gun to convince others that the shopting was justified?
    10. If it turns out that the car was not stolen and that he was shot in the back. Did he still deserve to be shot? Did you continue to shoot because he came toward you?

    • 1. Was their car the car that was stolen, yes or no? Paper plates is not an indication of Grand theft.
      The plates did not match the make of vehicle, which is a pretty good indication that it was stolen. This information is in the article.
      2. Did they call in the vehicle that was spotted, yes or no?
      Unknown, but probably.
      3. Having any interaction with the cops, past or present doesn’t make you guilty of a crime.
      This is a good point. Unless the particular police officer has a history with he suspect the fact he was questioned or arrested multiple times is almost meaningless.
      4. While chasing him down, at what point did the officer become fearful?
      If they knew he was armed, probably the entire chase. Wouldn’t you be fearful chasing an armed man?
      5. Because a gun was seen or recovered doesn’t mean that it was point.
      True, but it makes it more likely a gun was pointed at the officers than if no gun was recovered.
      6. When the kid took off running why did he put the gun away, rather than hold it and run? Especially if he was going to turn around and aim at the officer.
      Maybe his first choice was to get away, and after it became apparent he couldn’t escape he decided to try to take down the officer to enable his escape. Who knows? One thing you have to remember is Scnell’s body was probably flooded with adrenaline. People do stupid things in that situation. BTW it is possible Scnell was shot in the back, and the reason was because the cop’s body was flooded with adrenaline.
      7. Is it possible that he was looking for a place to hid the gun in the little shopping center?
      Could be, might even be likely. But how is that germane?
      8. How could he run, point a gun and hold up his pants?
      Hold up your pants with one hand, point the gun with the other, use your legs to run. Besides, who said he was running when he pointed the gun.
      9. Because law enforcement still haven’t said that the car was stolen, is it possible that it was not and they are attempting to deflect and focus on the gun to convince others that the shopting was justified?
      Whether the car was stolen or not is not really germane, if the police had reasonable cause to stop the car. I am unaware of California and their paper plates but if what the article says is true, that police can tell the model of car by the plates, then it was certainly reasonable to pull the car over.
      10. If it turns out that the car was not stolen and that he was shot in the back. Did he still deserve to be shot? Did you continue to shoot because he came toward you?
      If it turns out he was shot in the back and had not pointed the gun at anyone I would say he did not deserve to be shot, whether the car was stolen or not.

  13. store video show Snell had a gun. Another bad dude who likes to gamble with his life. Delusional BLM still want to defend him? STFU

  14. send them all back to africa where they belong, The US would top countries like sweden, norway and denmark in most stats if the savages were gone. 40% less murder, prisons nearly empty, very low teen pregnancy and stds, far fewer people on welfare, no slums that normal people have to avoid or risk assault or rape. Imagine how nice it would be.

  15. so let me get his straight he was in a stolen car armed and running from the police. then turns towards them with said gun and people are upset?