Internet provocateur Milo Yiannopoulos was captured on video advocating “cross generational” sexual relationships between boys and older men. (See full transcript below and video above).
Yiannopoulos resigned from the conservative site Breitbart on February 21 as outrage over his comments grew.
In the video, Yiannopoulos describes how he feels sexual relationships between boys and older men can be positive. He denies he was defending pedophilia in the video, saying that term refers to younger children, not “someone who is 13-year-old, who is sexually mature.” He also says, “We get hung up on this sort of child abuse stuff to the point where we are heavily policing consensual adults.”
A man in the video asks him: “You are advocating for cross generational relationships here, can we be honest about that?” Milo responds: “Yeah, I don’t mind admitting that.”
You can watch the video above. Be aware that it’s very graphic at times. It’s a little confusing to watch at first because it involves a group of men who are engaging in a mass interview via web cam, and Milo appears in a small box at the top right of the screen for his portion.
Some people are demanding that CPAC – a major conservative gathering where Milo is scheduled to speak – pull his invite and the group now has. Politico reported on February 18: “Controversial author and Breitbart News editor Milo Yiannopoulos will be the keynote speaker at this year’s Conservative Political Action Conference.”
The American Conservative Union has now rescinded its invite for Milo to speak at CPAC as the outrage grows over the videotaped comments about 13-year-old boys and older men.
Milo has scheduled a news conference for 3 p.m. February 21 in New York to address the comments. Watch it here. He admitted he made “outrageous” statements but said he was being targeted unfairly.
Milo posted a response entitled “a note for idiots” on Facebook after the video began widely circulating on social media. He claimed circulated videos were selectively edited and denounced pedophilia. You can read it here:
He posted again on February 20, and revealed that Simon & Schuster had cancelled his upcoming book:
CNN host Jake Tapper made the CPAC point on Twitter as the video circulated.
Here is a transcript of part of the video.
There’s more though.
In the video, Milo says that relationships between younger boys and older men can be “hugely positive experiences” providing they are consensual. (According to Psychology Today, pedophilia “is defined as the fantasy or act of sexual activity with children who are generally age 13 years or younger.”)
And Milo says: “In the homosexual world, particularly, some of those relationships between younger boys and older men — the sort of ‘coming of age’ relationship — those relationships in which those older men help those young boys discover who they are and give them security and safety and provide them with love and a reliable, sort of rock, where they can’t speak to their parents.”
A different, older video, also circulated of Milo talking about sexual behavior with a priest when he was 14. That interview is with comedian Joe Rogan in 2015. Milo says at one point, “So you’re saying you’ve never seen a 15-year-old girl, at any point in your life, that you thought was hot?”
Here’s the full transcript of the newer video:
Milo: “This is a controversial point of view I accept. We get hung up on this kind of child abuse stuff to the point where we’re heavily policing even relationships between consenting adults, you know grad students and professors at universities.”
They then discuss Milo’s experience at age 14.
Another man says: “The whole consent thing for me. It’s not this black and white thing that people try to paint it. Are there some 13-year-olds out there capable of giving informed consent to have sex with an adult, probably…” The man says, “The reason these age of consent laws exist is because we have to set some kind of a barometer here, we’ve got to pick some kind of an age…”
Milo: “The law is probably about right, that’s probably roughly the right age. I think it’s probably about okay, but there are certainly people who are capable of giving consent at a younger age, I certainly consider myself to be one of them, people who are sexually active younger. I think it particularly happens in the gay world by the way. In many cases actually those relationships with older men…This is one reason I hate the left. This stupid one size fits all policing of culture. (People speak over each other). This sort of arbitrary and oppressive idea of consent, which totally destroys you know understanding that many of us have. The complexities and subtleties and complicated nature of many relationships. You know, people are messy and complex. In the homosexual world particularly. Some of those relationships between younger boys and older men, the sort of coming of age relationships, the relationships in which those older men help those young boys to discover who they are, and give them security and safety and provide them with love and a reliable and sort of a rock where they can’t speak to their parents. Some of those relationships are the most -”
It sounds like Catholic priest molestation to me, another man says.
Milo: “And you know what, I’m grateful for Father Michael. I wouldn’t give nearly such good head if it wasn’t for him.”
Other people talk. Oh my God, I can’t handle it, one man says. The next thing in line is going to be pedophilia…says another man.
Milo: “You’re misunderstanding what pedophilia means. Pedophilia is not a sexual attraction to somebody 13-years-old who is sexually mature. Pedophilia is attraction to children who have not reached puberty. Pedophilia is attraction to people who don’t have functioning sex organs yet. Who have not gone through puberty. Who are too young to be able (unclear and cut off by others)…That’s not what we are talking about. You don’t understand what pedophilia is if you are saying I’m defending it because I’m certainly not.”
Another man said: “You are advocating for cross generational relationships here, can we be honest about that?”
Milo: “Yeah, I don’t mind admitting that. I think particularly in the gay world and outside the Catholic church, if that’s where some of you want to go with this, I think in the gay world, some of the most important, enriching and incredibly life affirming, important shaping relationships very often between younger boys and older men, they can be hugely positive experiences for those young boys they can even save those young boys, from desolation, from suicide (people talk over each other)… providing they’re consensual.”